Jill Biden is accomplished in her own right — she holds two master's degrees and a doctoral degree. But then, her husband is the former vice president and a top contender for the Democratic presidential nomination for 2020.
And so while she has maintained her own career, she has also taken her husband's aspirations in stride.
As the former vice president has launched his presidential campaign, she's had to prepare for the massive commitment required for a White House run, along with the scrutiny. That has meant defending her husband against uncomfortable accusations, both old and new.
When it comes to the recently renewed controversy over how Joe Biden led the 1991 Supreme Court confirmation hearings for Clarence Thomas, in which law professor Anita Hill accused Thomas of persistent sexual harassment, Jill Biden tells NPR's Rachel Martin, in part, "It's time to move on."
Biden talked to Martin about her new book, Where The Light Enters, as well as her husband's presidential run.
On Vice President Biden's role in the Clarence Thomas hearings
Joe Biden's role in the Thomas confirmation hearings is one of the darkest clouds hanging over Biden's 2020 bid. At the time of the hearings, Biden chaired the Senate Judiciary Committee, and he has faced heavy criticism over his handling of the hearings — particularly because of corroborating witnesses who were not called to appear before the committee to back up Hill's story.
In recent weeks, Joe Biden called Anita Hill, but in an interview with The New York Times, Hill wouldn't say she considered that call an "apology." After telling ABC's The View, "I don't think I treated her badly," Biden also recently told ABC's Good Morning America, "I take responsibility that she did not get treated well. I take responsibility for that."
Biden: I watched the hearings like most other Americans, and so I mean Joe said, as I did, we believed Anita Hill. He voted against Clarence Thomas. And as he has said, I mean he's called Anita Hill, they've talked, they've spoken, and he said, you know, he feels badly. He apologized for the way the hearings were run. And so now it's kind of — it's time to move on.
Martin: Why did he wait until [just before] he was running for president to call her?
Biden: Well, I guess it was just not the right time maybe. So, he wanted to call her. I think he didn't know whether she would take his call, and he was so happy that he she did take his call, and they spoke. And I think he was, you know, I think they came to an agreement.
Martin: Did you encourage him to make that overture?
Biden: No, that was his decision.
On accusations to Vice President Biden of unwanted touching
Lucy Flores, a former Nevada Democratic assemblywoman, accused Joe Biden this year of kissing the back of her head and sniffing her hair at a 2014 event, when she was a candidate to be Nevada's lieutenant governor. It was the first of several similar accusations Biden faced in the weeks leading up to his campaign launch.
Joe Biden responded with a video saying "governing, quite frankly — life for that matter — is about connecting" — words that Jill Biden echoes here. He also said "I get it" and said he would change how he campaigns. (Shortly after that video, however, he joked about the controversy at a campaign event.)
"He connects with people. And I think that's one of his strengths. And he heard [Lucy Flores] loud and clear, and he said he would take responsibility and he would you know honor people's space.
"And I write about that in my book, when I talked about when I met the Biden family and they were different. They were a very affectionate family. My family wasn't that affectionate. So that took me a little while to get used to that, but then I saw how Joe connected with people.
And now these are different times. Joe realizes these are different times. And believe me — he's very conscious of, you know, how he interacts with men and women today."
